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  Bored dogs?
Posted by: only-borders - Yesterday, 05:35 AM - Forum: Working Dogs, Sports, & Training - No Replies

Winters can be long and hard on us and our dogs. Here are a few things that might help pass those long days and be fun for our dogs.


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  I'm gonna have to watch this one...
Posted by: Ember - 01-18-2018, 03:01 PM - Forum: Working Dogs, Sports, & Training - Replies (2)

Working from the couch, minding my own business. Been watching Ember bring toys in and out of the room, death shake one, suck on it for a second, drop it, stare out the window. An hour later go find another toy, try a shake, drop it, stare out the window. I can tell she's bored, but I HAVE to work.

Well, she comes up to the couch, stares at me until I look at her, then outright bops me in shoulder with a waggly body. Okay, this is sort of new, she's been figuring out how to ask for interaction. I'll take it, take my break, get on teh floor with her. Right now I'm experimenting with ignoring her toys because she still just doesn't quite get what to do with them when another living thing is involved. So we personaly play quietly. side by side, hip check, paw grabs and run away, her weaving under me and almost knocking me over. Fun quiet stuff.

After a few seconds she starts this zoomie thing of running to the door and running back to me. Usually her "I wanna walk sign", except this time it's shorter - she's only really making it to the table where her treat jar sits for her "SNACK" cue.

Third time doing this she stops, sits, looks at the jar, looks at me, looks at the jar.

We've never incorporated food into our personal play. She works too hard for food, and I don't want play to be work to her.

I asked her if she wanted a snack and she went nuts.

I think someone just figured out that that whole "manipulation" thing Mom does during training can go both ways.

I'm doomed.

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  Over excited pup.
Posted by: Tasha's&Mattie'sMom - 01-17-2018, 08:26 PM - Forum: Working Dogs, Sports, & Training - Replies (4)

I was able to get a great deal on a competition agility tunnel so that is what the collies got as a Christmas present.  I often take Tasha and my daughter to the park with some basic agility equipment to train but Mattie usually stays home.  Last week I took Mattie too since my oldest daughter and her boyfriend were in town for the holidays. Mattie loved it but she was impossible.  She was over threshold.  She would chase Tasha through the tunnel but if I attempted to get her to run through the hoops or go over the jumps she wouldn't do it.  At one point I tried to get Mattie to sit and knew right away that it wasn't happening, she reminded me of a GSD I once had that would get over threshold and his jaws would start snapping and one time I ended up getting bit in the arm, not the dogs fault, I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.  Mattie doesn't bite but she becomes completely unfocused.  I ended up letting Mattie chase Tasha as Tasha followed our small agility course in the park. 

In the major scheme of things this doesn't matter.  If Mattie never acquires the skills to become an agility dog that is fine with me but I really would love her to learn to be calm and focused.

Any suggestions?

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  Snow day
Posted by: Williewingnut - 01-17-2018, 07:22 AM - Forum: General Border Collie Discussion - Replies (3)

Nothing better than a wee snow day off school and work

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  The joys of shaping - learning to not give up.
Posted by: Ember - 01-14-2018, 03:48 PM - Forum: Working Dogs, Sports, & Training - No Replies

The joys of shaping. Having a dog that is willing to try different things - and retry something she knew worked one time before. Look at all the offered behaviors!

Object: There was a ball in the bowl I wanted her to pick up. At the time of this clip, she had been sticking her nose in the bowl and pushing the ball around. I decided to wait for an open mouth to click this time, but she got confused.

What I love most is how she was willing to back up to the bowl after coming all the way forward to me. That is a completely new concept for her, and she rocked it. So she got an easy click.

Time: 25 seconds

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  Multi tasking
Posted by: Keller-b-border - 01-13-2018, 11:40 PM - Forum: Working Dogs, Sports, & Training - Replies (6)

I moved this over from my gingerbread thread.

Gideon's mom mentioned she saw a video of how to teach your dog to wrap himself up in a blanket. After I posted a video of my dapper duphus trying to figure out how to get a toy chicken out from under a comforter. She said it was super simple.  You teach them to pick up and hold a corner of the blanket and then rollover. 

Here is Keller's issue. He CAN multi task. Take "name of toy" put it on or in "name of furniture or container"  Go to named location get the toy put it in name location. BUT we have not figured out how to get him to carry something strange without turning it into a toy. Then there is adding motion like bringing it somewhere possibly following me That requires : take strange object, hold on to it, walk it somewhere possibly with me.   

There in lies the problem in my ADD brain. It likes to complicate things. There is the  challenge of getting him to put the blanket in his mouth. Not playing with it. Then adding in holding it while doing yet another action. That is three things: taking it an object not normally put in his mouth, holding it, then rolling himself. Then there is rewarding for actions involving his mouth ant  the timing of it.   I try to avoid rewarding with food if I can play instead. It seems easier to me on lots of levels. Keller gets digestive issues if he has too many rewards or  if I feed his food as rewards. He swallows without chewing and chokes. AND other unpleasant issues.

I have Karen Pryor's picture book. What kid doesn't like picture books....right? Maybe after I get Christmas down next weekend.

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  Finally went to update vaccines.
Posted by: Keller-b-border - 01-13-2018, 10:41 PM - Forum: Health and Nutrition - Replies (4)

Well.... Here's a windy up and down tale. 

Last year I took Keller in to get his physical and rabies. I was giving the clinic I usually go to one last shot. It is on it's third owner since mine retired. I liked the first people that bought it but they did not stay long. This third owner. Here is a downer but in funny way. He did everything fine in I guess, not very friendly, no interest in getting to know the animal he was treating or the owner. Here's the funny part. As I was leaving he started talking about border collies. He complimented Keller's laid back disposition. He said a lot of the ones he treated were high strung. Fine.... okay. Wait for it...... Then he holds up this scarred finger (not sure may have been missing a bit of the tip.) " a border collie did this" Not casually in a joking manner. I did not know what to say... what DO you say to something to that. At first I was offended because I liked border collies. Then I realized HEY this guy is a veterinarian!!! He chose to work with animals. Yup good chance ya get bit, especially if you aren't cut out for the job. Pretty sure if ya want to stay in business you don't talk about with your clients. And to name a breed....geez. I now had a vet. I was considering admit to me that they are not comfortable with the type of dog I own. 

I like the remaining technicians from my original vet. and they love Keller. I was too embarrassed to ask for my records to be faxed to a new vet. so I avoided looking for one. A couple of his shots came due back in September...Kept getting notices. Finally around Christmas time I asked Only Borders for the name of good clinic. She lived close by for a while. And the more I thought about it. The more I thought about it... I wanted my old technician friends to know why I left for some reason. So I private messaged them and told them sadly we had to move on and why when I decided to have them fax the records to the new veterinarian. 

Excellent Vet. Linda thanks for the info. Dr. Shaw was awesome. So the sad news was I had to leave some friends for better care. The up side is found a new place I like so far (can't see opinion changing).

Now for another downer. Keller tested positive for Anaplasmosis  in his blood work up.   Huh   He doesn't show any signs or symptoms. He is vaccinated for lyme disease. However that is one of the vaccinations I was late on doing. I do treat him for tick prevention. Only a few days before I know I am going to be leaving for my parents in the woods. At home is in short lawns and on sidewalks. The junk is oily and gross for regular treatment. He had maybe one or two tics last year. Of course I did not find them until they were engorged partially. Hey Black dog.... thick fur..... Usually they go around his ears where there are folds and lumps and bumps. We don't know how long he has had it. According to the info I read they provided if he was going to have a reaction symptoms typically show up within two weeks? 

There is a test they can do to see if it is active in his system from what I understand. Or I could just treat with doxycycline for two weeks. OR I can just monitor?

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  What do you think?
Posted by: only-borders - 01-13-2018, 03:48 PM - Forum: Off-Topic - Replies (4)

Will this years weather be enough to lessen the number of ticks? 


I live in central Wisconsin USA. A normal winter for us can range anywhere from -30/-35 F (-34 to -37 C) with wind chills, to temps into the mid 40's F (4.4's C), and anywhere in between. 

We can get snow depths from a few inches to several feet depending on the year. This year so far it has been extremely cold with very little snow. If the ticks can burrow into the frozen ground maybe, just maybe this cold will turn out to be good for something. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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  Thoughts and opinions
Posted by: only-borders - 01-12-2018, 05:42 AM - Forum: Off-Topic - Replies (10)

I'm looking for your input here. The number of active members has declined over the past year. I have been giving thought to closing ABC because of this. 

With that said nothing would happen until our domain name expires in June. 

What do you all think about setting up a Facebook group? It could be a closed group so we wouldn't get a bunch of unwanted trolls/spammers. 
How many of you would join a Facebook group? How many wouldn't? Can you give your reason for or against?

If you are interesting in keeping ABC as it is can you tell me why. There are also options to sell the forum to strangers. Not knowing what direction it would take once it was sold I'm not sure that is an option for me. Selling or turning it over to a member could be an option as well. 

Everything is up in the air yet and no decisions have been made. I would like your feedback before deciding anything. 
I'm looking forward to reading what you have to say.

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  Puppy Food recommendation
Posted by: racehorse - 01-11-2018, 11:34 AM - Forum: Health and Nutrition - Replies (4)

I have a 14 week old Border Collie.  What is the best food for this age? Dry or canned? And price wise?

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